"Often it's the little detail here or concept there; that cool idea you got the client to agree to, that component or part of the programme that brings a sense of play, something that makes you stop and say, 'Cool'." ADR meets Kurt Crisp and Peter Ahern, co-founders and directors of buck&simple. The pair discusses how details can make a project, taking risky, but great leaps, and the thrill of being free of plans.